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arutama
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, October 4, 2024 at 15:45:29

Artist: DJ SHARPNEL
Title: StrangeProgram
Tags: electronic instrumental breakcore Kurboh
BPM: 110
Filesize: 4125kb
Play Time: 03:44
Difficulties Available:


Download: DJ SHARPNEL - StrangeProgram
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#7
breakcore freeform mapping

Hardcore - me (Ranked)
Masochism - Satori (Loved)

Nominations
Digitalfear117 / iSlodinx
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Digitalfear117
2209 posts

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1 month ago
Hardcore:
00:10:255 (1) - Slider conversion warning. The path this object would take a catmull is not the same
00:11:346 (1) - Slider conversion warning. The path this object would take a catmull is not the same
01:23:657 (3) - Slider conversion warning. The path this object would take a catmull is not the same

Kurboh's Masochism:
03:33:703 (1) - The bottom of this slider goes offscreen

This feels more like a loved map to me than something should go for ranked… maybe I just don't get it.

I'm not crazy about things like:
all these reverse arrows being so easy to SB on 00:20:587 (1) -
00:36:215 (1,2,1,3) - these triangle things are super easy to SB on
these slider shapes too 01:57:145 (3) -
the width on this thing is crazy 02:14:448 (3) -
all this shit 03:20:308 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
What the fuck 03:24:773 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
All of these things I have pointed out because to me it feels like it's not designed around playability, it feels like it's throwing a whole bunch of gotcha gimmicks trying constantly to make you miss. Not for me.
arutama
417 posts

1 month ago

Digitalfear117 wrote:

Hardcore:
00:10:255 (1) - Slider conversion warning. The path this object would take a catmull is not the same
00:11:346 (1) - Slider conversion warning. The path this object would take a catmull is not the same
01:23:657 (3) - Slider conversion warning. The path this object would take a catmull is not the same

> fixed all the slider things, thank you
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arutama
417 posts

1 month ago

Digitalfear117 wrote:

Kurboh's Masochism:
03:33:703 (1) - The bottom of this slider goes offscreen

This feels more like a loved map to me than something should go for ranked… maybe I just don't get it.

I'm not crazy about things like:
all these reverse arrows being so easy to SB on 00:20:587 (1) -
00:36:215 (1,2,1,3) - these triangle things are super easy to SB on
these slider shapes too 01:57:145 (3) -
the width on this thing is crazy 02:14:448 (3) -
all this shit 03:20:308 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
What the fuck 03:24:773 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
All of these things I have pointed out because to me it feels like it's not designed around playability, it feels like it's throwing a whole bunch of gotcha gimmicks trying constantly to make you miss. Not for me.

Gotta put my 2 cents regarding the issues

> 00:20:587 (1) - this one isn't really a problem to me tbh, it goes for the same as 00:19:471 (1), i played it myself kinda plays normally, idk, just putting my 2 cents on this slider reverses thing

> 00:36:215 (1,2,1,3) - all these triangle slider-anchor-shaped sliders throughout the map aren't that easy to SB imo, if you just hold ur cursor in the middle of those triangle sliders during the gameplay, it isn't that hard tbh

> 01:57:145 (3) - this type of slider shape throughout the map has the same reason like i said about
00:36:215 (1,2,1,3) - these sliders timestamp u mentioned, you just need to hold ur cursor in the middle of those sliders during the gameplay without SB-ing them

> 02:14:448 (3) - about this one slider… it plays fine if u just make a linear cursor direction, decision go back to Kurboh if they want to change it or not

> 03:20:308 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - okay im agree this is just too much to put, pretty much impossible to go for not SBing these slider imo, idk what will Kurboh do with these objects

> 03:24:773 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - these objects are somehow so dense but still possible to aim without SB, but somehow agree you kinda surprised with these objects lol, will go back to Kurboh to decide whats to do with them
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Satori
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1 month ago

Digitalfear117 wrote:


Kurboh's Masochism:
O 03:33:703 (1) - The bottom of this slider goes offscreen

This feels more like a loved map to me than something should go for ranked… maybe I just don't get it.

I'm not crazy about things like:
all these reverse arrows being so easy to SB on 00:20:587 (1) -
00:36:215 (1,2,1,3) - these triangle things are super easy to SB on
these slider shapes too 01:57:145 (3) -
the width on this thing is crazy 02:14:448 (3) -
all this shit 03:20:308 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
What the fuck 03:24:773 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
All of these things I have pointed out because to me it feels like it's not designed around playability, it feels like it's throwing a whole bunch of gotcha gimmicks trying constantly to make you miss. Not for me.

i mean, that's kinda the point, the map is really gimmicky and i stand by all of these patterns cuz they're all FC-able once you know the quirks of how to perform them. i don't agree with this being for loved, gimmicky maps are allowed to be ranked, check out the top two diffs of the approved/loved mapset of the song (which the TAG diff of was originally approved), some of those patterns are argubly way worse.

arutama wrote:

Gotta put my 2 cents regarding the issues

> O 00:20:587 (1) - this one isn't really a problem to me tbh, it goes for the same as 00:19:471 (1), i played it myself kinda plays normally, idk, just putting my 2 cents on this slider reverses thing

> O 00:36:215 (1,2,1,3) - all these triangle slider-anchor-shaped sliders throughout the map aren't that easy to SB imo, if you just hold ur cursor in the middle of those triangle sliders during the gameplay, it isn't that hard tbh

> O 01:57:145 (3) - this type of slider shape throughout the map has the same reason like i said about
00:36:215 (1,2,1,3) - these sliders timestamp u mentioned, you just need to hold ur cursor in the middle of those sliders during the gameplay without SB-ing them

> O 02:14:448 (3) - about this one slider… it plays fine if u just make a linear cursor direction, decision go back to Kurboh if they want to change it or not

> X 03:20:308 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - okay im agree this is just too much to put, pretty much impossible to go for not SBing these slider imo, idk what will Kurboh do with these objects

> X 03:24:773 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - these objects are somehow so dense but still possible to aim without SB, but somehow agree you kinda surprised with these objects lol, will go back to Kurboh to decide whats to do with them


i fully agree with what arutama has to say here for most of it, i still think all these patterns are FC-able if given to the right player, and i gave the map to some people to playtest it and before the big build up, the rest of the map seemed good to them (i highlighted them with a O), so there isn't really a reason to change them.

i'll change the ones marked in X if there's more complaints about those from another modder
Last edited by Satori 1 month ago, edited 2 times in total.
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Digitalfear117
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1 month ago
My opinion has not really been swayed on this. I’m not vetoing this map, I Just don’t want to push it in its current state. This map lacks the flow and fun of 2010-2011 style “tech” style impossible maps. 
iSlodinx
561 posts

Earned 1 kudosu.

1 month ago

Digitalfear117 wrote:

My opinion has not really been swayed on this. I’m not vetoing this map, I Just don’t want to push it in its current state. This map lacks the flow and fun of 2010-2011 style “tech” style impossible maps. 


i understand it, but you can make Kurboh's diff loved but arutama one should be ranked at the same time, but tbh i think they are fine, but as you mentioned it's lacking those flows and stuff, but i guess i can give it a chance if you think this kind of suggestion is good, by promoting kurb's diff loved and arutama's diff ranked.

also related to tags, does it need to have hardcore tag i believe? i might be wrong this time.
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arutama
417 posts

1 month ago

iSlodinx wrote:

i understand it, but you can make Kurboh's diff loved but arutama one should be ranked at the same time, but tbh i think they are fine, but as you mentioned it's lacking those flows and stuff, but i guess i can give it a chance if you think this kind of suggestion is good, by promoting kurb's diff loved and arutama's diff ranked.

also related to tags, does it need to have hardcore tag i believe? i might be wrong this time.

If we have hardcore in diffname, do we need it on the tags as well? I don't think so
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arutama
417 posts

1 month ago
Also a set with ranked and loved diff at the same set is pretty much exist, example like several DJPop TAG4 mapsets
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iSlodinx
561 posts

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1 month ago

arutama wrote:

If we have hardcore in diffname, do we need it on the tags as well? I don't think so


i guess i'm wrong…

also waiting for digital's response right now.
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iSlodinx
561 posts

1 month ago bubble
Anyway, i'll bubble this and wait for Digital for now.
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Digitalfear117
2209 posts

Digitalfear117
2209 posts

Earned 1 kudosu.

1 month ago
This map is missing manual lead in time.

Arutama’s diff
First object is at 719ms, so add 800ms of manual lead in time

Kurboh’s diff
First object is at 447ms, so add 1100ms of manual lead in time
arutama
417 posts

1 month ago

Digitalfear117 wrote:

This map is missing manual lead in time.

Arutama’s diff
First object is at 719ms, so add 800ms of manual lead in time

Kurboh’s diff
First object is at 447ms, so add 1100ms of manual lead in time

> fixed, nice catch, lesson learned
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iSlodinx
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1 month ago
GG, ❤️ & 🔥
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